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Recently there was a small dust-up between John MacArthur, California pastor and Beth Moore, a famous Bible teacher. It revived an age old complaint about women in authority in the church based on a passage which has been for centuries completely misinterpreted.
Thirty years ago there was an awful fuss about women serving in the Church in some official capacity as though they should be limited to the Cs – cooking, choir and children.
The advantage of having years of looking back is that one can see patterns and I see no difference between then and now. Many men do little to move the Kingdom forward and the presence of some women ministers is of meager value as well. Then there are women doing mighty works for God and some men too. In other words, the leadership of the church of God wherever it exists takes on the coloring of its membership. If the congregation is OK with theological basics, fine. If they want something more, they will get that.
The chief argument against women is Paul’s famous requirement that women not speak.
1 Corinthians 14:34 Let your women keep silent in the churches, for they are not permitted to speak; but they are to be submissive, as the law also says.
But he adds something that makes this statement sheer sarcasm. He says, “as says the law.”
There is no mention in the Law of God forbidding women in ministry
Check it out folks; the law of God says nothing of the kind. The command comes from Jewish legal writings known as Mishnah and Gemara which have no bearing on Christian belief or practice, any more than their food laws do. The Law Of God is simply the 1st five books of Moses – Period. The rest is prophets, history, Psalms and worship material and common sense writings. All are God’s word; none is to be thrown out. But neither is anything to be thrown in.
Lesbian women are not to preach and teach, but neither are gay men! The Bible is clear on that. Sin must be dealt with before anyone takes leadership over God’s people.
Paul more than any other writer says nothing under the Jewish legal system has any effect on people under grace – that is we, Christians. He is throwing old Jewish law back at the readers to tell them what path they are on. Paul wrote an entire book, Galatians, scolding them for living under Jewish rules.
So here is what we find. There are many believers who are very comfortable living under the old law. Whole denominations live under the law, as Christians, with little freedom to move forward for the Kingdom. Please remember. That is their choice and Free Will is always the program of God. He will not countermand your desire to live wherever you faith system is comfortable.
My friend Wanda, a missionary to Belize, did all the preaching, teaching and counseling and her husband did all the cooking, an arrangement which brought hundreds into the Kingdom and the natives were happy. You know that kind of arrangement would not fly in many parts of the USA.
There are penalties for living in less than God wants but that is between you and Him. God is used to this law-business.
Numbers 14:4 So they said to one another, “Let us select a leader and return to Egypt.”
When the going gets tough trying to obey God, there is always a group headed back into trouble, sin and death. When we stay fixed in our theology or position, how can we move on? And many individuals, denominations and congregations do not.
Denominational life has its focus on buildings, money, jockeying for position, and satisfaction in what they have. Opening up the ministry to women forces them to change, to widen their tents, and look at the world the way God does. God still speaks to His people within the confines they have set up for Him. He uses everyone and everything if He can. And if He can’t, then He finds other people to do the work.
The decision is not what others want, but what God wants for you. Choosing God’s will for your life leads to an overwhelming confidence. Confidence comes from two root words – con meaning with and fideo, a Latin word meaning faith. If you are with God in His will your confidence will empower you and frighten others. But not to worry, let God handle that.
Beth is right about one thing in particular. God calls individuals to the work He has for them as individuals. It is not the job of human beings to decide or control that. All of us answer to God for the level and sincerity of our obedience. And that includes me as well.
#BethMoore #JohnMacArthur #womenteach
This makes sense to me.
If Jesus went to all that trouble to die on the cross for the human race and the earth as well, why would He leave it in enemy hands? and take the believers to heaven when it is easier to take the wicked and leave His earth to His people?
Thank you Dr. Craig @Reasonable Faith.com.
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<ga.js>This happened when I was living in China. I was in the mood to cook something at home. I’d tried some local mutton and no amount of cooking could turn what I had purchased into anything easier to eat than my American shoes. Into the trash it went.
Then I headed to a little meat shop around the corner, quite unaware that it was Muslim owned. Little did I know that Muslims are not allowed to sell meat to “infidels” which, according to their religious system, I definitely am. After I saw him in his get up, I was glad to know why I was rejected and I left relieved.
It is against the New Testament rules to eat meat dedicated to a foreign god, in this case Allah. The vast majority of Christians pay no attention to what they buy for meals, believing that the Department of Agriculture has things nailed down in terms of inspection.
However, we have never had to worry about our food being offered as a sacrifice to Allah until now. Alas, the Butterball people have been allowing an Islamic priest to say prayers over our favorite turkeys when they are slaughtered, a clear violation of this passage.
This passage from Corinthians is long but if we as Christians join in with idol worship, we can ruin our public testimony, even though we have no belief that our behavior is wrong. Let Paul explain it. The Message version is very clear.
1 Corinthians 8:3-13
8 1-3 The question keeps coming up regarding meat that has been offered up to an idol: Should you attend meals where such meat is served, or not? We sometimes tend to think we know all we need to know to answer these kinds of questions—but sometimes our humble hearts can help us more than our proud minds. We never really know enough until we recognize that God alone knows it all.
4-6 Some people say, quite rightly, that idols have no actual existence, that there’s nothing to them, that there is no God other than our one God, that no matter how many of these so-called gods are named and worshiped they still don’t add up to anything but a tall story. They say—again, quite rightly—that there is only one God the Father, that everything comes from him, and that he wants us to live for him. Also, they say that there is only one Master—Jesus the Messiah—and that everything is for his sake, including us. Yes. It’s true.
7 In strict logic, then, nothing happened to the meat when it was offered up to an idol. It’s just like any other meat. I know that, and you know that. But knowing isn’t everything. If it becomes everything, some people end up as know-it-alls who treat others as know-nothings. Real knowledge isn’t that insensitive.
We need to be sensitive to the fact that we’re not all at the same level of understanding in this. Some of you have spent your entire lives eating “idol meat,” and are sure that there’s something bad in the meat that then becomes something bad inside of you. An imagination and conscience shaped under those conditions isn’t going to change overnight.
8-9 But fortunately God doesn’t grade us on our diet. We’re neither commended when we clean our plate nor reprimanded when we just can’t stomach it. But God does care when you use your freedom carelessly in a way that leads a fellow believer still vulnerable to those old associations to be thrown off track.
10 For instance, say you flaunt your freedom by going to a banquet thrown in honor of idols, where the main course is meat sacrificed to idols. Isn’t there great danger if someone still struggling over this issue, someone who looks up to you as knowledgeable and mature, sees you go into that banquet? The danger is that he will become terribly confused—maybe even to the point of getting mixed up himself in what his conscience tells him is wrong.
Studying other religions
In addition, there is the issue to studying other religions. We are told not to do it. The same principles apply here too. Someone who is not able to be discretionary about what he puts in his mind may become confused. People with little spiritual foundation can easily get off track with occult information that they are not ready to absorb. You are free to read those books but why would you if there is nothing there but religious junk food?
11-13 Christ gave up his life for that person. Wouldn’t you at least be willing to give up going to dinner for him—because, as you say, it doesn’t really make any difference? But it does make a difference if you hurt your friend terribly, risking his eternal ruin! When you hurt your friend, you hurt Christ. A free meal here and there isn’t worth it at the cost of even one of these “weak ones.” So, never go to these idol-tainted meals if there’s any chance it will trip up one of your brothers or sisters.”
What you are free to do and what you should be doing publicly are two different things. And you can apply this to some concerts and musical events, plays and other creative venues that glorify evil in some measure.
Now back to turkeys. To me personally this is no big deal because I don’t like turkey and I never buy it for myself. But my children do.
But Paul does show how our public behavior can be a stumbling block. Muslims need to know that Christianity does not accept any Muslim doctrine, and since many of them will be moving to the USA our public stance is going to be much more important.
If you think this is nutty, you can read more online about it at How do you like your Butterball turkey?
#Allah #Muslimfoodlaws #Butterball
The Message is a Bible translation known for its street language. It is not a paraphrase partly because Eugene Peterson is such an accomplished scholar.
Here is where Jesus called out Peter for questioning Jesus about His relationship to another person.
John 21:20-21 Turning his head, Peter noticed the disciple Jesus loved [called John] following right behind. When Peter noticed him, he asked Jesus, “Master, what’s going to happen to him?”
22-23 Jesus said, “If I want him to live until I come again, what’s that to you? You—follow me.” That is how the rumor got out among the brothers that this disciple wouldn’t die. But that is not what Jesus said. He simply said, “If I want him to live until I come again, what’s that to you?”
This scripture is a clear call for us to spend less time on what God is doing with and to other leaders. My blog has been going on now for nine years and one of the major concerns of my readers has been “false prophets and false teachers in the church.” You’ll notice that I never identified anyone by name. That is not what God wants.
God wants us to know His word so well that we can spot fraud ourselves.
He does not want us to make lists of false teachers and their teaching. The FBI trains agents in how to spot counterfeit bills, not by showing them the phonies, but by only handling the right stuff. When they pick up a bad bill instantly their fingers recognize the fraud by the texture and feel of the paper itself.
Studying false religions is a waste of time
The Word makes a point of saying do not study the religion of unbelievers. Furthermore one is not even to speak the name of false gods, and considering the prevalence of the word Allah on TV shows this today would be nearly impossible!
Exodus 23:13 “And in all that I have said to you, be circumspect and make no mention of the name of other gods, nor let it be heard from your mouth.
Old Testament rules of morality apply to all
We are to honor the laws of the Old Testament while always remembering that keeping them is not a work to guarantee our salvation. We are only saved by faith in the Messiah. But the good advice of the Old Testament still applies to our daily affairs. Salvation is a process of always being open to the correction and leading of God.
A few weeks ago I saw my Congressman in his office. I went there with one purpose. A week later I see that it was God’s mission not mine and something quite different from my goals was on His Agenda. More and more I see myself being moved around the board to get stuff done while I am blissfully ignorant. (Maybe he thinks I’d mess it up if I knew more. I’ve been known to do that.)
Who can you expose
It is acceptable to identify someone who has wronged you personally; that is part of your testimony, and if he or she has not made things right or asked for forgiveness you are free to criticize openly.
Here is the Biblical example for that principle from Paul the Apostle:
2 Timothy 4:14 Alexander the coppersmith did me much harm. May the Lord repay him according to his works.
However, the fact that you can do so that does mean you should do it. God is the one who is supposed to be governing your life, not the rules however clear they may be. Jesus saved His most acidic criticism for those people in the faith, the synagogue, and the church.
For those outside the faith He had nothing but love and acceptance. Perhaps He found that those with a little learning became dangerous things?
In doing some 10 hours of research recently I was annoyed and surprised to see how many educated people spend untold internet pages on lambasting someone else. Besides being unscriptural, it is also damnable to them.
The Old Testament warns not to criticize a servant to his master.
Proverbs 30:10 Do not malign a servant to his master, Lest he curse you, and you be found guilty.
God is watching people who take shots at others. And in more cases than I care to mention, the critics did not know their arguments against another were simply not true.
One man on TV recently made an error, but he seemed to be such a nice person I wrote him a letter and quoted the Bible passage he had messed up. I didn’t call him a false prophet which others might. Examine yourself thoroughly before you venture into the sea of negativism; you do not know where God has led someone else and why.
God hates legalistic critics
These are the ones who shine a light on the faults of other ministers. This is wrong as it puts men in charge of other people, and even an historical nincompoop knows that men cannot manage other humans very well. God’s purpose for the planet is His running things, that is why it is called the Kingdom of God.
#fasleprophets #falseteachers #error #falseministers
Simmie and her husband are immigrants from Indonesia. She escaped from China and is an implacable foe of Communism. Together they run a successful beauty shop known for high quality work. They both wear the brown prayer beads that identify Buddhists; both are very happy and fulfilled in their lives. They remember President Ronald Reagan’s defeat of the Soviets and are conservative voters.
I like my appointments early so when Simmie shows up I am already there. She takes about 5 minutes before work to stand in front of the little plastic Buddha in a corner of the shop. She gives a daily offering, which is often fruit, and says some prayers standing there silently. (Buddhists in China eat the fruit for lunch.) Orientals are a quiet sort anyway. Then she begins her work day.
I marvel at this sight. Here is a plastic Buddha manufactured by presses in the Pacific Rim (even by those new copy machines filled with liquid plastic) and painted with fake gold. Sometimes these Buddhas are ceramic and covered in real gold. But no matter. I wonder, “Whatever good will that do? This is just plastic; he can’t talk back.“
Most people, even some Buddhists, don’t know that Buddha did not claim to be God, only that he had the wisdom of God. And in fact, many people are wise.
This is a god who cannot answer.
My God can talk back. I want my God to tell me, “That is a stupid idea,” or – “You are on the right track.” I left Texas because God said, ”Start packing.” I could not be happier with the results of the move. Buddha can’t tell me that.
In China I asked one teacher, a Buddhist, “What is God’s name?” She answered, “Shang Di.” That is the Chinese word for the creator God. Then I asked, “Do you know His first name?” She did not.
I said, “His first name is Jesus.” Last October someone told me she accepted Jesus as Messiah, finally after 10 years. These things take time.
What do we do with the Simmies in our midst? We need to tell them that our god can talk back. Not through a priest, or even a prophet, but directly. I love hearing testimonies of people who have Jesus show up – sur-prise, sur-prise. He will do it. When Christians pray.
As the political situation becomes more difficult, not just in the USA but also and most urgently worldwide, more and more people ask when will God come to judge the earth. Almost all information on this is divisive and unclear. Isaiah speaks of the Day of Wrath.
Isa 13:13-15 – The day of wrath is the day of the lord. (KJV) 13 Therefore I will shake the heavens, and the earth shall remove out of her place, in the wrath of the Lord of hosts, and in the day of his fierce anger. 14 And it shall be as the chased roe, and as a sheep that no man taketh up: they shall every man turn to his own people, and flee every one into his own land. 15 Every one that is found shall be thrust through; and every one that is joined unto them shall fall by the sword.
Here is where everyone returns to his own land. Whether this applies to us believers is a matter of discussion and on whether you believe the rapture occurs before the day of the Lord, or after this passage or whether you believe it is later on. Definitely one thing is sure – we will all decide on which side of Right or Wrong we stand.
There are 3 interpretations of the “day of the Lord.”
1 – Believers are raptured and watch the events as a cloud of witnesses.
2 – Believers stay here through the judgment and are protected, hidden in some safe place.
3 – Believers stay through the judgment and act as helpers to those whom God wants to save because God has said, “occupy ‘til I come” so we do not leave our post.
The answer to this question depends on timing. Since God lives in eternity, when He speaks of time its relevance to us is like walking through a mist. When He says “soon” we cannot know if this is 10 years or 100.
The word “flee” home tells us that people are not returning home voluntarily. Something has driven them to leave in a big hurry.
These questions have no universal agreement as of yet. I feel sure they will be straightened out in due time. For now, I’d suggest that no one can be absolutely sure.
#rapture #church #dayoftheLord #everyonereturnshome
You probably have forgotten The Bathroom Bill of 2016. North Carolinians remember but others do not because it did not involve them. It is a lesson in how Democrats propose legislation that will damage political opponents
The Nazis knew that Jews were taught to be modest, and that to be naked in public was a sign of shame. Consequently the prisoners taken to the death camps were required to remove all their clothes in public in front of men especially but also in front of the opposite sex. The purpose was to keep them docile and submitted. It worked. I saw all this in a PBS documentary “Swimming in Auschwitz.”
Leap forward 50 years to the United States of America where radicals have purposed to create a whole new culture, to change the American lifestyle of freedom from fear to one of caution, suspicion and withdrawal.
Gender Identity, part of the Anti-Christian goal of politics
The Bathroom bill is a public law in many areas of the country including such heavily LGBT places as Houston, Texas. The bill requires women especially, but also other modest people and children to risk being seen by strangers of the opposite sex in a traditionally private place. This has created a whole new social problem where public behavior is restrained from some shopping and other public events for fear of exposure and possibly attacks by people who look to be one gender but claim, without proof, to be another.
This bill is but one more attempt by Democrats to make the Americans as docile as possible. But will it work? It certainly has made many very angry, and increased interest in elections. But do the Transgender folks know they are being used? I rather doubt it. The Jews swept up into cattle cars never envisioned the gas chambers and ovens where they would lose their lives as well as their societies in Europe.
Jews say Today “Never Again”
Netanyahu of Israel said recently that the Jews in Europe went like sheep to the slaughter. He also said, We will never do that again. His promise to his nation is to not give up one inch of Israel to anyone for any reason.
Will America do that?
He added, “or make sure we’re looking at the log in our eye before we are pointing out the mote in other folks eyes.”
The proverb he meant to quote is “people who live in glass houses should not throw stones” a warning against hypocrisy, a big word for being a phony. As usual when politicians quote a book about which they know little or nothing they do indeed look like phonies.
The word glass appears only twice in the Old Testament but it refers to mirrors, a common household item made of polished brass and used in the wash basins of the Tabernacle where the worshiper was required to examine his own sin in a mirrored basin of water, to recognize his sin as preparation for God’s cleansing. They were also popular as ladies mirrors as well.
I checked an English version of the Koran, which Obama actually does know, and there are a few references to glass, but that book was written much later in world history.
Cal Thomas, a long-time Christian whose word on such matters can be trusted, has a short column on Bill Clinton, Al Gore and others bringing Bible quotations into politics because they perceived that Republicans have a leg up on the topic. Thomas knows his Bible in any event.
Click on this article for more info. Cal Thomas on some politicians’ Bible references
Obama has simply misapplied the verse. Hypocrisy has nothing to do with immigration policy. It is either a matter of Law or not. There are only a few times when I think we can “separate church and state” and this is one!
President Obama would be better off remembering the modern version of this proverb. “People who live in glass houses (e.g. the White House) shouldn’t get stoned.”
The key is simple: make your decision ahead if time.
Sounds impossible. How can I know how to decide before I know what is asked? Life is full of opportunities for bad decisions. You can be sure that the devil will send to you the wrong woman or the wrong man to marry. Make up your mind ahead of time that you are not going to be fooled. A potential spouse must meet some standards. Put it down on paper. Remember love can be ginned up quite falsely (called lust) or whatever. The person who thinks through a major decision will end up with a better outcome.
Make up your mind that you won’t compromise with evil before the opportunity comes to you. I was offered a pile of money and endorsements when I ran for the Legislature. I sad “no.” I was nice about it. The offer was generous. This group expected me to follow their corrupt, immoral doctrines when I was in the Legislature. I said no ahead of time. I did not win the election but I was nobody’s “yes” woman either. The only lobby you have to answer to is the God Lobby; God is more than competent to tell you how to vote.
If you know ahead of time what you believe and why decisions are easier (more…)
In 50 years we’ve gone from 3 major TV stations, daily newspapers, radio and a handful of big city newspapers to a billion-voice internet media which has now completely subsumed the former media empire. Today every voice must compete with a dizzying number of TV channels, the decline of national and local newspapers and a multi-billion blogisphere, web and tweet-world. The entire information age is upside down.
Truth used to be on the top
At the bottom level are blogs; WordPress had 65 million of them in 2015 and now 78 million, combined with web sites, and other platforms, not to mention the forbidden Chinese blog world. The real news is at this level, and I suspect the really creative world as well. On top of that still remains the school systems, hopelessly behind in both practice and effectiveness. It is top-down bureaucratized, while the blog world enjoys complete freedom of expression. On top of that are books and trendy magazines.
Truth is now on the bottom
We can ignore the celebrity stuff, and as influential as they are, the home, garden and food sites. On top of that we have a handful of TV stations who find they cannot compete with anything lower, and often unable even to compete with each other. Like the famous pyramid on the dollar, the top of the pile, New York Times, CBS, ABC etc, have an eye now blinded. The Grey Lady (NY Times) in fact does no long deal with black and white. All issues are grey (as the circulation figures show, as do the Nielsen ratings for TV) that no one much is watching or listening or reading them anymore.
Major newspapers now owned by individuals or businesses
The New York Times was once called the newspaper of record. It is so slanted now that the Wall Street Journal is considered much more reliable as well as the Washington Post and the Washington Times. Politicians are hampered by the public ignorance of even basic facts about the modern world, while scandals and speculation pose as news. It is now an insult to be called a journalist even though some are fighting back.
The Balkanization of information is actually a blessing. Major media voices have lost public trust as indicated by the Nielsen ratings of TV shows. Check out TV by the Numbers.
The only invention we now need is the ability to watch internet programming on our wide screen TVs. Pricey cable should be dead. Of course we will be confused. Everyone will have a different version of “the facts” and the major voices telling us what to believe will be quieted.
But I see this as progress. Dictatorial leaders will not be able to control the media, which is one thing all dictators try to do, and the voice of the people can be better heard. And so can the voice of God.
#lyingpress #TVbythenumbers #lossofpublictrust #religion #spirituality
As Washington DC goes through a miasma of turmoil, reviewing what God promised in 2016 needs to be re-read. Our government is not a flash in the pan. We are here for the long haul. Please note how much of this is already happening.
I’ve been active in politics since 1960 and never have I seen so much change and turmoil. But God is neither surprised nor unprepared. These following words come from the ministry of Kim Clement who ha a remarkably accurate record of predicting the truth.
In addition 500 Christian pastors are running for public office in 2016. This reminds me of the Revolutionary War, when Pastors announced from their pulpits that they were removing their black robes and girding on a sword for America. It influenced many people at that time.
God is neither Democrat or Republican
SOME GOOD NEWS (PROPHECIES) REGARDING THE CURRENT POLITICAL SITUATION
December 31, 2014 As I saw these different flags, the Spirit of God said to me, there shall be a revelation that shall bring the United Nations to a place of dismay and humiliation. I shall, this next year, I shall deal with corrupt leaders, even in the United States of America and there shall be shining lights that will come from a people that will say “we are dissatisfied with Republicans and we are dissatisfied with Democrats.” There is a new party that has arisen and shall come forth and capture the hearts of the young people, says the Lord.
February 22, 2014 This man will throttle the enemies of the West, and there are highly embarrassing moments that are about to occur for many, many politicians in this nation. There will be a shaking amongst the Democrats in the upcoming elections, but unsettling for the Republicans.
October 29, 2010 -What you are about to see with your own eyes is how the people of this nation will turn things around. There is a changing of the guard that’s coming your way. Something very unusual is about to transpire. They will say, what has happened to the Democrats? They’ll say what’s happened to the liberals? They’ll say, what has happened to the Democrats, then they’ll say what’s happened to the Republicans as well? For God says I am joining forces so that something fresh and something new may arise. How many of you are ready for something new to arise? Now they’ll say, what’s happened to the Democrats? Now they say what’s happened to Republicans? We are ready for change! We are ready for change! We are ready for change! We are ready for change! The Spirit of the Lord says they will say, what’s happened to the left? They’ll look to the right and say, what’s happened to them? Then they’ll say what’s happened to those who have called themselves liberal and those who are conservatives. Then they’ll look straight ahead and they’ll hear the sound of righteousness.
October 14, 2006 -I spoke of unbuckling the Bible belt and revealing and exposing the nakedness. Well, God says, be thrilled about this, when I have exposed nakedness I clothe with garments of righteousness. And this is what shall take place in Florida. This will take place in Massachusetts. This will take place in the Northeast. This will take place in Texas. This will take place on the west coast. I’ll go as far as Oregon but God said listen, there is going to be great exposures of nakedness and then I will clothe with righteousness and this nation shall experience a breakthrough and a revival as it has prayed for, for 100 years. It shall shake this nation, says the Lord.
I suggest you look around to see who is returning to his own homeland and why, to teach you about the end of the age. It may well be you.
God is changing the face of American politics. Rejoice!
#prophecy #politics #exposure #Oregon #Massachusetts #Florida #Texas #revival #righteousness #realignment
Published on Oct 3, 2014
On the last night before Bob Jones’ passing Bonnie Jones was alone with him in his hospital room and observed the clock on the wall as it sped forward. At exactly 11:55 p.m. the red second-hand began to move quickly then rested at the perpendicular position pointing to twelve. Immediately the minute hand began to advance forward rapidly. Of course when the minute hand moved, the hour hand advanced as well. Throughout this process the minute hands did not move. It all stands for the new move of God for this generation.
Join Bonnie Jones as she describes and interprets this amazing spiritual sign for the Body of Christ.
As you watch the hands move you can tell by the background conversation that no one has sped the clock forward with any device. All the talk is current.
This text can also be found on The Elijah List.
“Bob Jones’ Clock Stopped Here: We Must Discern the Times”
Bonnie Jones, Pineville, NC
He answered and said to them, “When it is evening you say, ‘It will be fair weather, for the sky is red’; and in the morning, ‘It will be foul weather today, for the sky is red and threatening.’ Hypocrites! You know how to discern the face of the sky, but you cannot discern the signs of the times.” Matthew 16:2-4
On the last night before Bob Jones’ passing, I was alone with him in his hospital room and observed the clock on the wall as it sped forward. At exactly 11:55 p.m. the red second-hand began to move quickly, then rested at the perpendicular position pointing to twelve. Immediately the minute hand began to advance forward rapidly. Of course when the minute hand moved, the hour hand advanced as well.
In this quick transition, the clock stopped at exactly eight o’clock for a period of five seconds. It began spinning forward again until both hands reached exactly midnight then they stopped. The red second-hand jumped forward five seconds then the clock seemed to reset itself. This process took a total of five minutes. The same thing happened with the clock exactly one week earlier. At that time four others, beside myself, were in the room to bear witness to this extraordinary yet prophetic happening.
Several weeks after Bob’s passing, we talked with the head of security from the hospital. We showed him the video we made on our phone of the clock in fast-forward. He was amazed and said it was impossible for this to happen. He told us that all hospital clocks are synchronized to atomic time for the purpose of recording births, deaths, surgeries, etc., because the timing must be precise. Yet, this did happen – not once, but twice.
I believe that God was showing us a demonstration of spiritual things being accelerated in the Body of Christ. The fact that the clock stopped at eight o’clock indicates a new beginning. There was grace before the new day (11:55 p.m.) that has been extended to the Body of Christ. Bob would speak of the number eleven, from Isaiah 11, where God is stretching forth His hand a second time to the remnant. And I believe fifty-five reveals great grace being released to bring in the billion-soul harvest Bob often spoke of.
It shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set His hand again the second time, to recover the remnant of His people who are left… Isaiah 11:11
I believe the red second-hand resting on the twelve pointed to God’s divine apostolic government being established. In fact, I believe it is already in position and now being revealed by the Spirit of Truth. There were five witnesses – also meaning grace. The first time it happened was February 6; six representing the number of man.
The time 11:55 also represents two chapters in the Bible: Isaiah 55 from the Old Testament, and Hebrews from the New. Hebrews chapter 11 is known as the faith chapter. It’s loaded with testimonies from the heroes of faith. Yet the night of Bob’s passing, I witnessed his demonstration of obedience that leads to faith. And this is what I believe the New Testament saints walked in. Bob would always talk about Isaiah 35 being the Highway of Holiness and Isaiah 55 being the conditions for it.
Highway of Holiness
Daily we need to heed to the voice of the Lord and obey. Too many have partaken of the fruit of the world and walked in its ways. Our soul is easily swayed by all the distractions of this fast-paced world. Yet our spirit should be the reigning authority in our life. If our spirit is submitted to the Holy Spirit, we will make choices according to the Father’s will and stay on His Highway. As the Body of Believers walk with the Lord on the Highway of Holiness, surrendered in obedience to Him, their toxins are flushed out of the soul and only their redeemed spirit remains.
In short, all roads lead to the same place, although some take detours and never return to the straight and narrow way. Some are all about self and some are all about I AM. Take the road less traveled and arrive on time in the arms of Jesus.
Please view this video of the clock in fast-forward recorded on February 6th, 2014 in Bob’s hospital room (link below). Indeed, it was a supernatural phenomenon that only God could make possible. It’s an extraordinary prophecy and we need to take heed and understand: the time is NOW for HARVEST.
Time has been accelerated and we must be able to discern the signs of the times. Don’t let the distractions of this world keep you from walking with Him in the eternal realm.
Step into the harvest field of hope and follow after Him, only He can make you a fisher of all mankind. Follow the road less traveled and bear witness to the Anointing.
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Christianity is not a brainless, wild and woolly faith. I never thumped a Bible – who needs to?
After nine years of writing, I learn my readers are primarily that 30% of Americans who don’t go to church, or wish they had something more, yuppies and the discontented. God knows your questions and He has answers. My job is to find them and send them off to you. I hope this makes good sense to you, because He said, “Come, let’s reason together.”
It is reasonable, and then exciting and then, literally out of this world. Join the fun.
Cornelia Scott Cree 2019
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If you want to be a Change Agent, let me recommend this group which seeks to turn around fatherless boys.
The once popular notion that ontogeny recapitulated phylogeny, which claimed that embryos can predict future development, is no more scientifically valid but I see an interesting application of this to how we understand Jesus from the most basic “I never heard of Him” to the Kingdom-active life of a completely committed believer.
God’s people began ignorant
The apostles (disciples) were, just as we are, completely ignorant about who Jesus really was, and what his program and purpose on earth might be. They started out believing, because they were part and parcel of his activities, that he was a nice man with special God-given powers. When he died they scattered not because they were disloyal but because they thought he was like other men, the way any person who recognizes that his hero is dead and he needs to find another hero, another leader.
A dead Jesus is better than a living one
This is a detailed dream and the symbolism of the security breach in the White House and its interpretation as a future of terrorism in the United States through Texas. It is long but for people who want to understand how dreams and symbols are interpreted it is a solid message based on current events.
Rick Joyner is a long time Christian teacher and known especially for his ministries to leaders in both the religious and secular worlds.
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